Fraud means materiality. It may be Re 1/ or Rs 1 Crore or Rs 100 Crores . I think if we go by definition of materiality it is diverting the matter of fraud only, means to hid the Fraud purposely by Auditors and Company Management, Board of Directors as well. To put it other way out means Auditors , I have observed and studied for last 20 years , that by mere book entry of profit taken in to account as profit which is other wise not, the same Auditors purposefully hid the fact of reporting mere book entry of profit. At the same time the other way out they all purpose fully reporting in Tax Audit Report U/s 44 AB exclude the same book entry of profit as taxable income. Such practice of Auditors and Management with in collusion with the Office of Registrar of Companies and also Ministry of Corporate Affairs and all other offices strictly.
In short time I will be filing a Public Interest Litigation Before Hon. High Court of Gujarat. Hope you all will support the Petition. If you are against such fraud companies , auditors and management and also all Offices of MCA .
Let me tell you the fact , I have came across two cases , Of Fraud of Rs 65 Lacs and another case of Rs 300 Crores of one company which had Rs 290 Crores losses in the year and by such mere book entry of profit credited as profit and paid dividend out of capital . The reserve and surplus balance was there would have been wiped out , no profit !!!!!One Big name from Gujarat!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Ramachandran Mahadevan <ramachandran_ca@yahoo.co.in>
To: aaykar <aaykarbhavan@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: [aaykarbhavan] FRAUD-AUDITOR-COMPANIES ACT 2013
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In short time I will be filing a Public Interest Litigation Before Hon. High Court of Gujarat. Hope you all will support the Petition. If you are against such fraud companies , auditors and management and also all Offices of MCA .
Let me tell you the fact , I have came across two cases , Of Fraud of Rs 65 Lacs and another case of Rs 300 Crores of one company which had Rs 290 Crores losses in the year and by such mere book entry of profit credited as profit and paid dividend out of capital . The reserve and surplus balance was there would have been wiped out , no profit !!!!!One Big name from Gujarat!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope soon will be in India , Ahmedabad .
Regard,
C A Shah D J
USA
From: Ramachandran Mahadevan <ramachandran_ca@yahoo.co.in>
To: aaykar <aaykarbhavan@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: [aaykarbhavan] FRAUD-AUDITOR-COMPANIES ACT 2013
The law requires auditors to report to the central government, whether a fraud has been or is being committed against the company by officers or employees of the company. There has been some breather here. The rules clarify that reporting is required only with regards to material fraud. Materiality shall mean frauds that are happening frequently or where the amount involved or likely to be involved is not less than 5% of net profit, or 2% of turnover of the company for the preceding financial year.
However, the issue relating to fraud being committed remains nebulous. Many questions emerge. First, what is meant by fraud is being committed? At what stage could it be argued that a fraud is being committed? How will the auditor probably know that a fraud is being committed? Consider an example, where an employee manipulates the vendor master file by creating non-existent vendors. Even if the auditor does detect faults in the master file, how could he substantiate whether those were created with an intention to carry out frauds? Also, the requirements presuppose that the auditor is going to work round the clock using a whole battery of auditors. This is not practically feasible and the auditor is unlikely to be remunerated on that basis.
In addition to reporting on fraud, the new law requires auditors to report on two other critical matters. One is to report on financial transactions or matters which have any adverse effect on the functioning of the company. The other is to comment on whether the company has adequate internal financial controls system in place and the operating effectiveness of such controls.
These are highly onerous reporting requirements. The definition of internal financial controls includes controls with respect to efficient and effective conduct of business. If the auditors have to report on the same, then they will have to enter into the shoes of the management; which is actually what the auditors are supposed to avoid as per current auditing standards. This seems even more onerous than the Sarbanes-Oxley (a US law on company accounting reform and investor protection) requirement. Auditors should not be involved in reporting on propriety of transactions. Hopefully, this is not the intention and the matter should be clarified by the ICAI or the ministry of corporate affairs. One was expecting that the rules would provide clarification on these matters. But that has not happened, which makes the auditor's role unclear.
The rules also prescribe the auditor's report to include his views on certain additional matters. The auditor will report on whether the company has disclosed the effect, if any, of pending litigation on its financial position in its financial statements. The auditor will state if the company has made provision for foreseeable losses, if any, on long-term contracts, including derivative contracts. One can understand the term "foreseeable losses" in the case of long-term contracts. But how can one foresee losses in the case of derivative contracts? Only the future can tell whether those will be profitable or loss-making. Never mind, the companies law and its rules expect the auditor to be a superhuman with extrasensory powers.
Published by HT Syndication with permission from MINT.
CA Ramachandran Mahadevan,M.Com.,F.C.A.,
I-708,Mantri Tranquil,Subramanyapura Post,
Bangalore-560061
Karnataka,India.
+91 80 42011024
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