Sunday, November 25, 2012

[aaykarbhavan] Re: [New_Delhi_CA] Re: {Amresh's CA's} Re: Strange to Note.!!!.....ICAI Election 2012



100 Crores scammer!!!!!!!! Was spending  at least not  less than Rs 50,000/ for posting Diwali Greetings every year in western region all C A s. All were stunned when not contesting for RCM or CCM and spending, for more than 7 to 8 years before contesting for RCM, in thise days compounding Inflation rates for all these years!!!! Then contested for RCM.



From: VANCHI MOHAN <vanchimohan@yahoo.co.in>
To: "New_Delhi_CA@yahoogroups.com" <New_Delhi_CA@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [New_Delhi_CA] Re: {Amresh's CA's} Re: Strange to Note.!!!.....ICAI Election 2012

 
Dear beloved members,

Recently I was travelling in economy class for my personal trip in a flight and saw some CCM travelling in Business class. I am not sure weather they are doing it on their money or our money.  Some one can clarify this?

Long back there was a person called EV Ramasamy ( alias Periyar) a reformer from Tamilnadu, working for the lower class people used to travel to various places. Whenever the people wants to buy him a first class ticket in the Train he insists them to buy second class and ask them to pay the difference money to the moment. Millions of followers he has in that state and still today remembered. We are living in such a country with such noble leaders.

Will our leaders follow their footprint? Instead of increasing the fees, increasing the expenses, unwanted things we can always strive for the benefit of all members. Here comes 100 cr scam, supposed to be a watch dog institution and exemplary to others, we put lot of shame on us.

Why don't the members who stand for the election give one of their manifesto including these reforms to save and conserve the cost.

Will they look into this?? Travelling in upper class alone is not going to lift the honor or spending money in Star hotels for Seminars fixing exorbitant fee. I do agree we need to compete with other institutions and international institutions but not with others money but with hard earned money of our own. 

We will vote for those who take oath to conserve.
Regards,
Vanchi
 


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Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: [New_Delhi_CA] Re: {Amresh's CA's} Re: Strange to Note.!!!.....ICAI Election 2012

 
Dear All,
              
  It is surprised to note that those who are sitting in RCM, or CCM for more than one Term , some are may be for 30 years,!! Have they given details of increase in their work C A G Audit, Bank Audit. increase in their Income . How they have contributed to all C A Members by Participating in development for members ,alive in all works of Members in Practice or in service?
Have they given any data in their circulars ever!!???
Some new comers , members should be given chance to contest.
When I contested I wrote in my circular about all this fact in blank that I will inform to all members from my region my direct involvement in all members interest. When Meeting at Mumbai conducted " Know your Members Before election , " I attended the meeting". The subject was given to me that ethical standards of C A , How would you combat . No other Contestant was present!!!!!
I think no body have given this, such ,  information.
C A Shah D J
USA


From: Ramachandran Mahadevan <ramachandran.mahadevan@gmail.com>
To: "ICAI_CIRC_MEERUT_CA@yahoogroups.com" <ICAI_CIRC_MEERUT_CA@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: {Amresh's CA's} Re: Strange to Note.!!!.....ICAI Election 2012

 
Dear Members,
Members should vote on the day of polling
By visiting the booth about which communication will come to
Your registered address along with brief details for each member 
From ICAI.
Vote for those who have done or contributed for ICAI,members,students.
And for those who will do the same in the future three years.

Best Wishes

Ramachandran M

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:13 AM, "Sanjeev Bedi" <sanjeevbedi2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
Yes. Those stupid clarion-call SMSs are getting on everyone's nerves. The message simply says: I seek your first preference vote, Please vote and support Mr So-and-so, etc. Why in the whole wide world should we vote for you? Who are you? Where do you come from? What have you done for the profession and what do you plan to do? Have you got a poll Manifesto?
 
Emails certainly are a better means of communication than those pesky SMSs. We have an option do delete the mails in case we don't want to read them. SMSs are more intrusive than emails.
 
Majority of us will vote not for a candidate who has the larger interests of the profession at heart, but who has got allotted or can allot concurrent audit/revenue audit/branch of our choice in case of a statutory branch audit, etc to us. The one who can bail us out if we get into some sort of trouble with the ICAI, CAG, etc. The one who gets the job done for us.
 
The crassest amongst us will vote for people who speak the same language as we do; worship the same God as we do; dress the same way as we do. In other words, Brahmins will vote for Brahmins; Banias will vote for Banias; Sardars will vote for Sardars; Muslims will vote for Muslims.
 
Is abstaining from voting undemocratic? Can I choose to stay put at home on 8 December? Or is it my democratic duty to go out in the shivering cold and caste…..errrrr….. sorry, cast my vote in favour of a candidate who I know to be a crook, but still write "1" against his name since I believe he is less crooked than all the others in the fray?
 
Please advise.
 
Incidentally, how many "Shes" are there in the fray in the NIRC? Last time, I voted for a "She". I didn't know her personally, but still I gave her my first preference vote. And she won!
 
Women are less evil than men.
 
Vanakkam,
 
Sanjeev Bedi
 

--- In ICAI_CIRC_MEERUT_CA@yahoogroups.com, mohamed shafi <shafi78647@...> wrote:
>
> Even though we are all CAs, group ofInteilgentia....yet we are all human beings,.......
>
> we still have Caste Religion as well as sons of soil feelings which can not be eradicated.  
>
> Even though I very much know that I can never get elected, and may be eliminated in the first or second round, yet I am 
>
> contesting as a matter of my right to contest.
>
>
>
> Mohamed Shafi
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: CA M.S.BHATIA msbcabhatia@...
> To: "msbcabhatia@..." msbcabhatia@...
> Sent: Sunday, 18 November 2012 12:46 PM
> Subject: {Amresh's CA's} Strange to Note.!!!.....ICAI Election 2012
>
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
>  
> Dear Yogesh Ji,
>
> You are absolutely right.
>
> Most of the existing CCMs ( barring 2 or 3) neither have any ATR (Action Taken Report), Manifesto or Agenda (for future plans).
>
> It is strange, how the voter will decide to vote for them ?
>
> Perhaps votes are being managed on the basis of CASTE, RELIGION AND RELATIONS.
>
> Our request to whole of the CA fraternity to shun personal gains(being temporary in nature), personal relations, ignore casteism and religion, rather vote for theissues raised for the overall benefit of the profession.
>
> This is the only way to bring Revolutionary Change !!!
>
>  
> Thanks and Regards
>
>
> CA M.S.BHATIA,Moderator
> Jalandhar(Punjab)
> Contact No:09855209344
>
> AWAKENED CAs' GROUP
> (An e-Group on Yahoo Groups' Site)
> for joining  click :
> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/AwakenedCAs/
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: YOGESH VERMA yogesh19761@...
> To: Awakened Group Members awakenedcas@...; awakenedcas awakenedcas@...
> Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2012 11:04 PM
> Subject: [AwakenedCAs] ICAI Election 2012
>
>
>  
> Dear Members,
>
>          My heartiest Congrats to Bhatia Ji and all group members, that new site of the Income Tax Department is witnessing the success of our Group Strength and be prepared for many more things in the near future.
>         As we all know the elections of ICAI is due to be held on 7th and 8th of December, 2012, But  to whom we should vote is still a big question mark?              As a member of ICAI Could we ask from the existing Central Council Members:-
>
> 1. 
> What were their achievements during their current tenure as CC Member and their contribution towards the profession;
>
> 2. And what is their future plans;
>
>       and think before voting:-How of them (CC Members)  have already given their election Manifesto (Their Vision) or their motto. My dear friends our vote can definitely change the fate of our profession so think a while  before voting................. 
>
>
> Always Keep Smiling.
>  
> With Best Regards.
>  
> Awakened CA. Yogesh Verma.
> M.Com, FCA, PGDPM & LW, PGDAT (Gold Medallist)
> CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT.
> Sood Complex, Top Floor, Below BCS, New Shimla-171009.
> (Himachal Pradesh)
> Ph. 94181-10514 (M), 0177-2670863 (O)
> Email: yogesh19761@...
>   From: "Sanjay Kr. Agrawal ACA,CWA (NIRC Member-ICAI)" nircsps@...
> Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:35:29
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Subject: Seeking Vote & Support in CC Election Of ICAI- Sanjay KUMAR Agrawal (Ballot No. 4)
>
>
>
>                Candidate Profile for Central Council  Elections of ICAI (Ballot No.4)
> CA. SANJAY KUMAR AGRAWAL
> FCA, CWA, B.Com (Hons.)
> Mob. No. : +91-9910399944
>
>
> About Myself:
> Myself is a qualified Chartered Accountant ( Nov 2005 Batch) and Cost
> Accountant (June 2007 Batch). The Institute of Cost Accountants of India awarded gold medal for securing highest marks in the intermediate exam
> of Cost Accountants in the Northern Region of India.
>
> With the kind blessings, warm support and guidance from all of you; I got
> elected first time as a member of NIRC of ICAI for the term 2010-13.
>  
>
> CA. SANJAY KUMAR AGRAWAL
> "When we awaken to our truth, we realize we are free".
>
> With the grace of God and Great Support from all of you; I raised,
> executed so many works as mentioned below for the wellness of our
> professionals at NIRC Level. However, sometimes I felt that major issues
> are dealt at the Central Council Level due to lack of authority and
> power bestowed with Regional Council Members.
>
> I found my self unable to complete many of the serious issues which I
> had focused during my tenure in NIRC. Time to time, I have submitted
> suggestions with ICAI on the various issues but observed that most of
> the issues are decided exclusively at Central Council level.
>
> All these limitations inspired me to contest for Central Council
> Level. It will be highly appreciable for me, if, you will compare my vision and past performance with the other contestants and give me an opportunity to serve in the
> Central Council and elect who is well committed towards upliftment of
> the profession and the real issues/challenges in front of us in the
> current scenario.
>
> To ensure the best representative in Institute at Central Council, I am requesting all of my professional colleagues to "Vote and Support" me in Upcoming election of Central Council of ICAI from Northern Region which is scheduled on 7th Dec' 12 in Delhi and Gurgaon and on 8th Dec' 12 at all places including Delhi and Gurgaon.
> My vision in Central Council of ICAI:
>
> My Journey as NIRC member of ICAI:
> As Treasurer (2010-2011) and Secretary (2011-2012)
> Tasks undertaken Completed In process Remarks
> Worked as chairman of committee of Informat-
> ion Technology and within first 75 days took steps for development of online mechanism for various functions of NIRC. Availability of all information relating to seminars & events with their background materials on website, Registration for GMCS/Orientation Programme Job Portal/
> Grievance Cell -
> Empanelment of special/ additional discounts for members at various utility
> services such as Hotels, Shopping Malls, Air tickets, etc. by showing
> members identity proof issued by the ICAI. Suggestions/proposal has already been submitted with ICAI president in the beginning of the Yr 2011. Necessary follow up is being done with the central council to get it implemented at the earliest -
> Controlling the expenses of NIRC and holding various programmes at
> minimum possible cost to NIRC by arranging Sponsorship from various
> companies. Various programmes conducted through industry sponsorship. - Various sponsors like Yes Bank, GAIL, BHEL, ONGC and DLF participated.
> Supported the students of Northern region by holding of various workshops on
> important topics/subjects, conducting seminars for the development of
> skills to face exams with more confidence - Doubt solving sessions by expert faculty.
> - How to crack the examination and motivational Sessions to boost the confidence level. - Various students participated in the programme
> Organized International Conference of Students in Dec 2010 at Sri Ram College of Commerce, Delhi University. Headed the Reception Committee in which more than 900 Students participated from various parts of the country and outside India. - International Conference of Students was a great success.
> Started the comprehensive classes for the students pursuing CPT, IPCC and Final Chartered Accountancy course at reasonable fees.
>
> Opened new Libraries in Delhi-NCR and made more comfortable existing ones through provisioning of various facilities. Conducted classes at concessional rates (in the auditorium of Sunder Lal Jain Hospital, Ashok Vihar and Shah Auditorium, ISBT, Delhi) . - The response of the same was outstanding
> I am sharing with you the election procedure so that the members, who
> are casting for vote 1st time, can easily understand the same and feel
> comfortable.
>
>
> Procedure for Casting of Vote at Polling booth
> When you will visit at polling booth near to your Correspondence Address registered with ICAI, the polling officer will hand over two different colors Ballot Paper, one for Regional Council and another for Central Council election. Ballot No., Name and Photograph of each of Candidate will be displayed in that ballot paper and we all are supposed to exercise
> our preferential voting right by giving 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc, ranking to
> candidate we want to elect. Importance of various ranks has already been illustrated in presentation. Hope you will find it useful.
>
> With due consideration of my past performance & future vision I
> assure you of my dedication towards the CA fraternity and will strive
> towards the upliftment of our profession.
>
> I solicit for your vote
> & support in upcoming Central Council Election of ICAI and elect me
> as youngest Central Council Member from Northern Region.
>
>
> With Regards,
>
> CA. Sanjay Kumar Agrawal
> Cell No. 9910399944
> Candidate for Central Council Election of ICAI
> Ballot No. 4
>            
>








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